"...I do NOT have to explain to her why my parents are the way they are, that is a huge selling point...."

Well OK,... but You have to keep in mind that nobody just gets partners problems. There has always to be enough pros to beat all the cons (at least the virtual pros in our head), yes its selfish, but thats how we humans work.

Now please don`t get me wrong, but from what Ive read here, it seems to me, that You may be enjoying your complicated life situation a little bit, like talking about with friends, the therapist etc.... Nothing wrong with that, but being that complicated guy, beaten by the life, always unhappy with something is definitely not good for the number of quality girls standing in a queue for dating You.

PS: I have to admit that Im simply fascinated by how You talk about visiting the therapist like she was your baker or something. If You do that in real world too, that would be like baring a banner "My life is so broken, I employ somebody else to fix it for me!" ...... not good for that dating queue length either!

I'm just fascinated of how much ranting there is in this thread. Dude, just move on and let go of your way of thinking, it's not going to end well.

(January 3, 2017, 10:10 am)doubleintegral There are more issues here than I am qualified to comment on. Hope you get things figured out, bud.

Don't sell yourself short, your advice represents much to me. I am deeply considering it. I just, need time. Time to process. I don't have a therapy appointment till fucking Thursday. Amazing. Like, this all is a true self-esteem killer on my part. Part of me is like "there is clearly something wrong with me, it's all my fault." Then part of me is like "there is something clearly wrong with them, it's not me, I'm just being as normal as I can be." I have no balance between the two modes of thinking. I always have seen things as black and white, always have.

Holy shit. Are you people seriously blaming womankind for the fact that no one wants to date you...? How fucking deluded can you be?

No one here is deluded. There are just so many factors at play here, one must consider all options. Whether the girl is insane, you are a fuck up, or the timing of said relationship isn't opportune, etc, etc. I am merely trying to gather advice on how to handle this situation as I don't want to lose an opportunity, considering I don't get that many. But it certainly looks like the opportunity is gone. I should have been more decisive and moved sooner.

However, motofoko, I am not open in the real world about my therapist. I only say it here because only 2 people on this site actually know of me, one actually KNOWS me, so it isn't really a big deal. Though I do like that baker comment, that was unique to say the least lol.

(January 3, 2017, 3:53 pm)janaie13 Holy shit. Are you people seriously blaming womankind for the fact that no one wants to date you...? How fucking deluded can you be?

I believe this guy is the troll who feeds off of saying negative stuff to lower the opinions of others on this forum. Ignore him Rudwah.

(January 4, 2017, 9:55 am)PatricksPrivate7

(January 3, 2017, 3:53 pm)janaie13 Holy shit. Are you people seriously blaming womankind for the fact that no one wants to date you...? How fucking deluded can you be?

I believe this guy is the troll who feeds off of saying negative stuff to lower the opinions of others on this forum. Ignore him Rudwah.

Either that or someone who has never had personal life problems in their life. And before anyone says "no one gets away with that", bullshit, I've seen people who have 0 personal life problems. They just can't keep a job or keep doing drugs instead lol. Life balances out in some way.

Weird thing is, last night my best friend messaged me, and for the first time EVER, that is in 9 years of friendship, she was like "I might actually leave him." I'm not getting my hopes up but that would be a tremendous occasion. And tonight, before I go to work, I'm going to message my other friend with a "Hey, you still coming to my family function or not? I need to know."

See how things play out from there, I guess.

(January 4, 2017, 4:12 pm)autumn_sprial Personal life drama sucks.
Might actually is an empty thought. We all have empty what -if thoughts.
Don't hop on the hopes-up train.
I speak from experience.
I hope someone wakes up and realizes you're nice and gets a good catch.

Aw, that's sweet of you to say. It will be easy to move on from the current girl, since I always went into the relationship expecting her to leave me so I never invested my fullest into her, luckily. My best friend on the other hand, she's having some issues and I just need to stand by her. She and I had our fight, we're done fighting, I will stand by her till I turn to dust.

That other girl finally messaged a friend and told me she's back with her ex, who used to give her black eyes before work, awkward. She also said to tell me that she's a horrible person and that I need to stay away from her. HARD TO ARGUE WITH THAT, right? Lmao.

I must say, this ENTIRE situation resolved itself rather easily. I didn't have to do anything. She did it all for me. What is with these girls, she's 25 and she's using highschool tactics of messaging people through other people, just cowardly. Grow the fuck up. I guess that's the difference between me and her.

Well not too much is resolved yet,... You still have no girlfriend right?

Regarding that best friend, my advice would be: Continue being just a friend and stay as away of her problems as that status allows! Remember wise doubleintegral`s words about changing a pond? Ones problems can be hardly solved by taking somebody`s else on top.

(January 4, 2017, 6:03 pm)motofoko Well not too much is resolved yet,... You still have no girlfriend right?

Regarding that best friend, my advice would be: Continue being a fiend and stay as away of her problems as that status allows! Remember wise doubleintegral`s words about changing a pond? Ones problems can be hardly solved by taking somebody`s else on top.

I should also point out that changing the pond won't do shit if he doesn't also change his approach.

Rudwah, do everything in your power to stop yourself from putting the pussy on a pedestal. DO NOT "completely enslave" yourself to a girl with whom you aren't already in a serious dating relationship, ever again. Otherwise a "good" girl (for lack of a better word - in this context, I mean a girl without all the baggage you've outlined here) is going to get a crush on you, you're going to scare her off, and then you'll be right back at square one with emotional shrapnel all over the place wondering what the hell happened.