(April 26, 2024, 12:25 pm)SPL At the end of the day, I'd prefer that TikTok die a natural death like MySpace than be forcibly shut down in one of its largest content-producing territories and risk losing a wealth of material. We're spoiled for content, and acting like it could up and vanish without any skin off our backs is absurd. Some of the greatest, innocuous finds on this site originated from there, and its ease of access vs. say, modern Instagram is unparalleled.

If ByteDance can't get the forced sale overturned legally, they'll almost certainly just shut down TikTok in the US.  The algorithms they use to drive engagement on TikTok are part of ByteDance's core business, so they're not going to get sold.  And TikTok is a small fraction of ByteDance's overall revenue.

This thread has a lot of "old man yells at cloud" energy. TikTok is simply part of the latest stage of evolution of internet culture in the same way that memes were. Sure, a lot of it is driven by a younger generation that has different sensibilities, but complaining about that is no different than Boomers complaining about the music their GenX kids listened to. It's silly to claim that TikTok destroyed long-form content when that content is alive and well on YouTube.

If TikTok actually does get shut down in the US (which I highly doubt) that content will simply migrate to YouTube Shorts, which is also a much friendlier platform for monetization anyway. And I don't know what I'm doing differently from some of y'all but shorts make up a tiny fraction of the videos I see on my YouTube home page.

As for how this relates to our interests here, anyone who thinks TikTok hasn't been a net positive for preggo content is either desperately jaded or too young to remember the dark ages of video on the internet.

(April 26, 2024, 5:54 pm)doubleintegral This thread has a lot of "old man yells at cloud" energy.  TikTok is simply part of the latest stage of evolution of internet culture in the same way that memes were.  Sure, a lot of it is driven by a younger generation that has different sensibilities, but complaining about that is no different than Boomers complaining about the music their GenX kids listened to.  It's silly to claim that TikTok destroyed long-form content when that content is alive and well on YouTube.

If TikTok actually does get shut down in the US (which I highly doubt) that content will simply migrate to YouTube Shorts, which is also a much friendlier platform for monetization anyway.  And I don't know what I'm doing differently from some of y'all but shorts make up a tiny fraction of the videos I see on my YouTube home page.

As for how this relates to our interests here, anyone who thinks TikTok hasn't been a net positive for preggo content is either desperately jaded or too young to remember the dark ages of video on the internet.

I'm not sure what you look up on Youtube, but it's delusional to believe that the content on YouTube is alive and well compared to when it was before Tiktok. And this is coming from someone who is following hundreds of channels ranging from 1st time mothers/family channels to the news and TV show compilation guys. So yes, there has definitely been an decrease of content for years now thanks to Tiktok. You can't deny that the amount of 10+ minute weekly vlogs are nowhere near what they once were.

Also you didn't take into consideration that not everyone on the site enjoys the same format of content. To assume that the fetish is in unison to the point where all are in agreement with one subject is just as silly as boomers yelling at gen x kids.

I am trying to wrap my head around how you and a handful of others are failing to see others perspective and are quick to brush it off as "There's a lot of boomer talk here. Anyone who thinks TikTok hasn't been a net positive for our glorious fetish is silly". That makes you sound no different than the people you're complaining about.

(April 26, 2024, 12:06 pm)Preggopee It’s funny, I remember YouTube being seen as what destroyed long from content—back when it was new a five minute video was considered absurdly short, 

5 minutes is not absurdly short. You’d be surprised how many people these days can’t sit through a 5 min video thanks to TikTok’s “shorts” format. You can tell the complete story of Titanic’s sinking in five minutes without rushing and provide a lot of in depth information. Nowadays anything over a minute is considered too long by most peoples standards. That is definitely TikTok’s fault. What I find annoying is how YouTube and other social media platforms put dumb shorts on their feed as if they were afraid of getting left behind if they didn’t copy what the cool kids were doing.

The younger generation is in love with TikTok because they aren’t old enough to know how things were in the days before the internet. When you sat down in front of a TV and watched long form content, developing the attention span to appreciate it. China is not looking to recruit the previous generations. We are too set in our ways and know better. They are after the younger generation, the impressionable skulls full of mush. If they can control them they have a grip on the future.

(April 26, 2024, 6:18 pm)MyandGoSeek I'm not sure what you look up on Youtube, but it's delusional to believe that the content on YouTube is alive and well compared to when it was before Tiktok. And this is coming from someone who is following hundreds of channels ranging from 1st time mothers/family channels to the news and TV show compilation guys. So yes, there has definitely been an decrease of content for years now thanks to Tiktok. You can't deny that the amount of 10+ minute weekly vlogs are nowhere near what they once were.

I am not comparing pre-TikTok YouTube to post-TikTok YouTube because there's no denying that TikTok has eaten some of YouTube's lunch over the past few years. That's the only reason that YouTube Shorts exists today. But to say that it's not objectively healthy as a platform, by just about any metric, in 2024 would be incorrect. And while it's true that stuff like the preggo weekly vlogs have really declined, that was a trend that had already started by the mid/late 2010s, I'm pretty sure. I'm not sure that's a great measure. Most of those 10-15 minute vlog videos only had about 20 seconds of belly shot anyway, which you can more easily get on TikTok these days.

Quote:Also you didn't take into consideration that not everyone on the site enjoys the same format of content. To assume that the fetish is in unison to the point where all are in agreement with one subject is just as silly as boomers yelling at gen x kids.

That's fair.

Quote:I am trying to wrap my head around how you and a handful of others are failing to see others perspective and are quick to brush it off as "There's a lot of boomer talk here. Anyone who thinks TikTok hasn't been a net positive for our glorious fetish is silly". That makes you sound no different than the people you're complaining about.

If we're talking about failing to see others' perspectives then I think there's plenty of that to go around.

(April 26, 2024, 7:15 pm)LTKNT101 You’d be surprised how many people these days can’t sit through a 5 min video thanks to TikTok’s “shorts” format.
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Nowadays anything over a minute is considered too long by most peoples standards.
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The younger generation is in love with TikTok because they aren’t old enough to know how things were in the days before the internet. When you sat down in front of a TV and watched long form content, developing the attention span to appreciate it.

All of these are gross generalizations (of both people and types of content), anecdotal, or simply incorrect. "Watch short content on TikTok" and "watch longer content on TV or another streaming platform" are not exclusive choices.

Quote:We are too set in our ways and know better. They are after the younger generation, the impressionable skulls full of mush.

LOL what? If the last 20 years of the social media age has taught us anything, it's that we absolutely do not know better.