Well if you’ve never had a partner it would be difficult to grasp the issue here, hence why I asked. And the difference is at this play you’re not seeing the person naked, nor fantasizing about fucking them. That’s the difference. Sex has a different meaning in relationships. To men it’s easier to separate sex and love. For many women sex and love goes hand in hand and to openly lust for another woman THAT OP ACTUALLY KNOWS IN REAL LIFE, is obviously not okay with his GF. That’s why. If it’s not okay with someone in the relationship then that’s just how it is, you can have your own opinions but when it comes down to it in this situation: OPs girlfriend is uncomfortable, betrayed and not interested in competing for attention from another girl he’s obviously interested in enough to risk their relationship over just to see her naked pics.

I'm agreeing that it seems to be an issue in OPs case. I'm talking about generically. Are you saying that because women find it more difficult to seperate sex and love that they are the ones who struggle to seperate fantasy and reality? But then that raises the question of how that works in an OF setting? OF models aren't in love with the people they provide content for. So why is it the case in one situation and not another.

For sake of argument: you could see plays/movies, and OF as ends of a spectrum. There is nudity in plays and movies. Then further down the spectrum there is burlesque. Where is the line exactly? It seems like a more nuanced issue.

Again, these are all boundaries to be decided with your partner. None of this is black and white and therefore can’t be decided by one person what is deemed acceptable or not. In the case of OF, of course the creator isn’t in love with her followers. For the followers, however, many times the reality/fantasy line does get blurred and feelings may get involved being on their side of the engagement. It’s happened with me and many many other creators were the customer tries to take it beyond or makes the situation uncomfortable.
Basically the simplest way I can put this without continuing to repeat my self is:
PORN: Okay
PORN of acquaintance: Not okay (unless discussed with your partner that it is)

I think the line gets blurred for some guys because for a lot of them places like OF are the only way to interact with women, and the only kind of place they can interact with women in a sexual way. Especially in the metoo era. I'm not saying that you do this, but I've seen models encourage the bluring of this line. A guy who's emotionally invested is far more likely to spend money. I think such practices are highly unethical, and need some sort of regulation. But it's also why I think sex workers should be viewed as just a professional doing a job, and shouldn't be put in a special category. I don't think that society has fully figured out where sex work fits in quite yet.

Keep in mind OP hasn't responded in 2 days, so anything past his last comment on Friday is based on speculation since none of us know the complete story. Nor are two people's mindsets are alike regarding the situation.

Alright guys i’m alive! Sheesh so the past few days have been nothing but guilt tripping and bipolar mood swings from my girl lol. Overall I came clean to her and everything I did and at first she wanted to make our relationship open cause she wanted to be equal with me and what I did but I tried my best to prove to her that I love her and only her so we have been together the past 4-5 days non stop and I basically had to be her bitch for a few days cause of my actions that ultimately traumatized her and will probably do for a while but at the end of the day I did manage to save my relationship and slowly but surely things will be normal again.

(June 15, 2023, 10:57 am)Marcelinemay Alright guys i’m alive! Sheesh so the past few days have been nothing but guilt tripping and bipolar mood swings from my girl lol. Overall I came clean to her and everything I did and at first she wanted to make our relationship open cause she wanted to be equal with me and what I did but I tried my best to prove to her that I love her and only her so we have been together the past 4-5 days non stop and I basically had to be her bitch for a few days cause of my actions that ultimately traumatized her and will probably do for a while but at the end of the day I did manage to save my relationship and slowly but surely things will be normal again.

So in order to "save" the relationship, you're enduring mental and emotional abuse from her? At this point, just dump her and move on. Yeah you fucked up, but if her way of patching things up is to be vindictive and cruel, then the relationship isn't going to last.

(June 15, 2023, 3:47 pm)Proctoersone So in order to "save" the relationship, you're enduring mental and emotional abuse from her? At this point, just dump her and move on. Yeah you fucked up, but if her way of patching things up is to be vindictive and cruel, then the relationship isn't going to last.

"Abuse" may be a bit of a strong word for it. That said, yeah, I think both of you would be better off walking away at this point.

Dude, you fucked up.
She fucked up.
You are both kinda bad, I really hope you realize this. This isn't how you handle this, you are torturing eachother. Opening the relationship isn't the way forward. Please stop.

(March 27, 2024, 2:49 am)ImpossibleBard Dude, you fucked up.
She fucked up.
You are both kinda bad, I really hope you realize this. This isn't how you handle this, you are torturing eachother. Opening the relationship isn't the way forward. Please stop.

Was it really necessary to necro this thread just to say that? 'That' being something already said multiple times by different members lol