I have a pregnancy fetish, but I also think that, in real life, it's genuinely evil to reproduce and that humanity should just die out. Does anyone else also feel this way?

No, you have too much doom media talking to you. The world is not a pleasant place but its worth reforming and fighting for.

Don't believe the antihuman propaganda, homie.

Not at all. Sounds like a guilt trip to stop people for pro-creating. Even before humanity the world was never at peace, so to rob future generations at a chance of life to feed a philosophical position is quite selfish.

As Jordan Peterson once said, you're free to commit suicide whenever you want. (No, I don't think you should --- the point is anti-natalism is a silly point-of-view.)

Edit: Because I know suicide is a sensitive subject, here is the point. The trouble with anti-natalism is it amounts to *giving up* on life --- so the analogy with suicide is apt. Those who advocate anti-natalism may as well advocate mass suicide. (By the way, mass suicide is a thing. Some Germans committed suicide in groups at the end of WW2.)

Now, you might say, "Well, anti-natalists don't advocate mass suicide, they simply think people shouldn't reproduce and create *more*". Effectively, there's no difference. Everyone eventually dies so you can do it now or simply wait until people die of natural causes. The key question isn not "Are anti-natalists advocating mass suicide?" but instead "Why *don't* anti-natalists advocate mass suicide?"

Here's my understanding of the answer. The fundamental mistake of anti-natalists is they do not accept suffering as a part of life. Sure, we would like to minimize suffering to an extent --- this is why we give laboring women epidurals --- but I do not believe we will ever eliminate suffering entirely. Suffering is part of the human condition. Actually, anti-natalists agree with me on that point --- but they say, "Since suffering is fundamental, we should end all human life." Whereas I say, "There is a larger purpose to life that justifies the suffering."

Think of the people who came before us --- in many cases, they had it much worse than us. There is a large population, for example, of black people in the US who are descended from slaves. Why did they have children in spite of their suffering? Why didn't the black people follow the anti-natalist route, and die out? They must have seen some purpose in carrying on, in bringing new life into the world. Don't you want to know why? Millions of people came before us who suffered far worse than me, and yet the vast majority took advantage of the opportunity to start a family and raise kids --- who am I to believe that I know better than those millions? And who am I to ignore their example?

Anti-natalism is silly: it "gives up" on life and asserts that life is pointless (nihilism) and it ignores other philosophies, other approaches to life, in a way that is downright facile.

(May 13, 2023, 2:12 pm)BasedGd1768 As Jordan Peterson once said, you're free to commit suicide whenever you want.  (No, I don't think you should --- the point is anti-natalism is a silly point-of-view.)

Jordan Peterson is a pedophile. Also, nice job telling me to kill myself; Real """based""".

(May 13, 2023, 8:23 am)Taro11 No, you have too much doom media talking to you. The world is not a pleasant place but its worth reforming and fighting for.

Nope, the world is worthless and humanity needs to go extinct.

(May 13, 2023, 8:33 am)Stretchedtummy Don't believe the antihuman propaganda, homie.

You say "antihuman" like it's a bad thing.

(May 13, 2023, 2:12 pm)BasedGd1768 As Jordan Peterson once said, you're free to commit suicide whenever you want.  (No, I don't think you should --- the point is anti-natalism is a silly point-of-view.)

Edit: Because I know suicide is a sensitive subject, here is the point.  The trouble with anti-natalism is it amounts to *giving up* on life --- so the analogy with suicide is apt.  Those who advocate anti-natalism may as well advocate mass suicide.  (By the way, mass suicide is a thing.  Some Germans committed suicide in groups at the end of WW2.)

Now, you might say, "Well, anti-natalists don't advocate mass suicide, they simply think people shouldn't reproduce and create *more*".  Effectively, there's no difference.  Everyone eventually dies so you can do it now or simply wait until people die of natural causes.  The key question isn not "Are anti-natalists advocating mass suicide?" but instead "Why *don't* anti-natalists advocate mass suicide?" 

Here's my understanding of the answer.  The fundamental mistake of anti-natalists is they do not accept suffering as a part of life.  Sure, we would like to minimize suffering to an extent --- this is why we give laboring women epidurals --- but I do not believe we will ever eliminate suffering entirely.  Suffering is part of the human condition.  Actually, anti-natalists agree with me on that point --- but they say, "Since suffering is fundamental, we should end all human life."  Whereas I say, "There is a larger purpose to life that justifies the suffering." 

Think of the people who came before us --- in many cases, they had it much worse than us.  There is a large population, for example, of black people in the US who are descended from slaves.  Why did they have children in spite of their suffering?  Why didn't the black people follow the anti-natalist route, and die out?  They must have seen some purpose in carrying on, in bringing new life into the world.  Don't you want to know why?  Millions of people came before us who suffered far worse than me, and yet the vast majority took advantage of the opportunity to start a family and raise kids --- who am I to believe that I know better than those millions?  And who am I to ignore their example? 

Anti-natalism is silly: it "gives up" on life and asserts that life is pointless (nihilism) and it ignores other philosophies, other approaches to life, in a way that is downright facile.

There is no "larger purpose" to the suffering. To claim there is is to promote child abuse. Also, I have no respect for any "civil rights" leader who isn't antinatalist. Humanity must die. If you think it should continue, or if you help it continue by breeding, you're a terrible person.

(May 13, 2023, 2:48 pm)Mboehm

(May 13, 2023, 8:33 am)Stretchedtummy Don't believe the antihuman propaganda, homie.

You say "antihuman" like it's a bad thing.

Honest question, I'm not trying to set you up in a "gotcha" situation, I'm genuinely curious. If you believe humans are evil and this that the other, why are you still here? Again, there is nothing malicious in this question, I'm just curious.