(March 11, 2020, 5:58 pm)BigBellyHunter Yeah you don't spend almost an hour just walking around...20 or 30 mins MAYBE, get in, maybe act like you're going to buy something then put it back or something or actually buy something small, but don't just walk around. Use that time to search, and if ain't nothing going on, leave!

Also don't just go for every belly... Just walk past some preggos
and act like you don't even care. Like those small bellies some people on here like to capture so frequently, just don't even trip.

 I agree. To get on my radar a pregnant woman has to be seriously huge. If I look at her and don't think to myself "Holy Shit!" I pass. Nothing wrong if some guys love and post small beginning to show bellies in fact that could be a subject for a thread. Just knowing her little bulge is her body telling you she's pregnant is a nice tease. There is pregnant and then there is HEAVILY PREGNANT! Depends on which one does it for you.

(March 11, 2020, 6:21 pm)LTKNT101

(March 11, 2020, 5:58 pm)BigBellyHunter Yeah you don't spend almost an hour just walking around...20 or 30 mins MAYBE, get in, maybe act like you're going to buy something then put it back or something or actually buy something small, but don't just walk around. Use that time to search, and if ain't nothing going on, leave!

Also don't just go for every belly... Just walk past some preggos
and act like you don't even care. Like those small bellies some people on here like to capture so frequently, just don't even trip.

 I agree. To get on my radar a pregnant woman has to be seriously huge. If I look at her and don't think to myself "Holy Shit!" I pass. Nothing wrong if some guys love and post small beginning to show bellies in fact that could be a subject for a thread. Just knowing her little bulge is her body telling you she's pregnant is a nice tease. There is pregnant and then there is HEAVILY PREGNANT! Depends on which one does it for you.

Heavily pregnant is always nice, but if the woman with the "little bulge" is an attraction i'll get my hands on my cam too

Your post's are great but I go with the others time to play it cool. You don't get many warnings like that.

(March 11, 2020, 5:41 pm)LTKNT101 Before I begin let me start by saying Target and all stores like it are considered public places because the general public is allowed in. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place so taking candid pictures of people is not illegal.

First... Target is a public place but it is private property, and many stores like Target do not allow photography inside.  I know Walmart and a few other large retailers don't.

Second...

My state has an "improper photography" law that is considered a "state jail felony" (not as bad as a felony but worse than a misdemeanor, and certainly worse than a slap on the wrist).  A dude in my city got arrested under suspicion of it for taking photos of women's asses at Walmart.  No upskirt photos, no sneaky changing room photos, he wasn't approaching them or even standing all that close to them; just photos of fully clothed women's asses as they were walking around Walmart.  Another customer saw him and reported security, who called the cops, who looked at the pics on his phone and arrested him.

Now, there is a good deal of nuance to it because the law specifically talks about photographing private body parts that are reasonably concealed from the public.  For example, upskirt or bathroom/changing room photos will make you guilty as hell.  I don't know what happened to the guy after that but it's possible, even probable, that he was never actually charged, or that he was charged and acquitted.  But why leave that decision in the hands of the justice system?  So not only did he have to endure the embarrassment of being found out, but he also had to go through the stress, cost, and hassle of mounting a legal defense for himself.  Also, I live in a right-to-work state, so he probably got fired just for the arrest alone.

Third: Following women around a store taking photos/video of them is creepy as fuck and is absolutely probable cause to confront you.  They don't know if your dumb ass is just trying to jerk off later or if you are a sexual predator that is endangering someone.

Look, I started taking candids when I got my first shitty cameraphone in 2004, and I myself have used the "no expectation of privacy" line more times than I can count over the years.  But like I said in my last post, you have to decide if the thrill of getting the pics, and the pics themselves, are worth the risk.  In the last 1-2 years I've decided that it's simply not worth it.

(March 12, 2020, 11:39 pm)doubleintegral

(March 11, 2020, 5:41 pm)LTKNT101 Before I begin let me start by saying Target and all stores like it are considered public places because the general public is allowed in. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place so taking candid pictures of people is not illegal.

First... Target is a public place but it is private property, and many stores like Target do not allow photography inside.  I know Walmart and a few other large retailers don't.

Second...

My state has an "improper photography" law that is considered a "state jail felony" (not as bad as a felony but worse than a misdemeanor, and certainly worse than a slap on the wrist).  A dude in my city got arrested under suspicion of it for taking photos of women's asses at Walmart.  No upskirt photos, no sneaky changing room photos, he wasn't approaching them or even standing all that close to them; just photos of fully clothed women's asses as they were walking around Walmart.  Another customer saw him and reported security, who called the cops, who looked at the pics on his phone and arrested him.

Now, there is a good deal of nuance to it because the law specifically talks about photographing private body parts that are reasonably concealed from the public.  For example, upskirt or bathroom/changing room photos will make you guilty as hell.  I don't know what happened to the guy after that but it's possible, even probable, that he was never actually charged, or that he was charged and acquitted.  But why leave that decision in the hands of the justice system?  So not only did he have to endure the embarrassment of being found out, but he also had to go through the stress, cost, and hassle of mounting a legal defense for himself.  Also, I live in a right-to-work state, so he probably got fired just for the arrest alone.

Third: Following women around a store taking photos/video of them is creepy as fuck and is absolutely probable cause to confront you.  They don't know if your dumb ass is just trying to jerk off later or if you are a sexual predator that is endangering someone.

Look, I started taking candids when I got my first shitty cameraphone in 2004, and I myself have used the "no expectation of privacy" line more times than I can count over the years.  But like I said in my last post, you have to decide if the thrill of getting the pics, and the pics themselves, are worth the risk.  In the last 1-2 years I've decided that it's simply not worth it.

First...Hunters that lack experience and propper capture techniques are the ones who end up getting busted. You don't follow your targets around the environment. You don't record using a smartphone. You blend in and avoid drawing attention to yourself by using a spy gadget that is not identified as a recording device. If no one knows you are recording there will not be any problems. The scenario you are talking about does not apply to me. I've been a candid hunter for years and have never got busted ever! I don't just candid hunt pregnant women I go for women that are not pregnant as well. If they have big breasts or a big butt I want images of them. My technique is flawless. You could be standing next to me and not even know I was capturing footage. That's how good I am. If you can't hunt without giving yourself away then yes, by all means, get out of the candid hunter game.

Second...The property a place like Target sits on is indeed private property however the building is open to the general public during a set amount of hours during which time it is considered a public place. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place. I didn't make that up. I have not heard of any no camera rules at Target or Walmart and I have not seen any signs posted inside either store that says cameras are not allowed. People record inside stores all the time. There are videos all over YouTub of people who review products for their channels. Most noticeably are the guys who want to show how Disney Star Wars merchandise is not selling. They film entire shelves of said toys, even showing the price tags. If cameras were not allowed these guys would be stopped by security. In fact, there is no law against taking video/pictures in a place of business other than in areas where privacy is obviously an issue (e.g. in restrooms, fitting rooms, etc).

Third...Improper photography is recognized in only one state which makes it not an issue for me because there is no such law in my state so far.

(March 13, 2020, 1:20 am)LTKNT101 First...Hunters that lack experience and propper capture techniques are the ones who end up getting busted. You don't follow your targets around the environment. You don't record using a smartphone. You blend in and avoid drawing attention to yourself by using a spy gadget that is not identified as a recording device. If no one knows you are recording there will not be any problems. The scenario you are talking about does not apply to me. I've been a candid hunter for years and have never got busted ever! I don't just candid hunt pregnant women I go for women that are not pregnant as well. If they have big breasts or a big butt I want images of them. My technique is flawless. You could be standing next to me and not even know I was capturing footage. That's how good I am. If you can't hunt without giving yourself away then yes, by all means, get out of the candid hunter game.

All it takes is one fuck-up - an inadvertent camera flash, not tilting your phone screen enough (or tilting it too much), hanging around one girl a few seconds too long - to find yourself in a world of shit. It can happen to anyone. Your risk is not zero.

Quote:Second...The property a place like Target sits on is indeed private property however the building is open to the general public during a set amount of hours during which time it is considered a public place. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place. I didn't make that up.

Just because the Target building is open to the public does not make it public property. Target owns the building, they get to set the rules (as allowed within the law).

Quote:I have not heard of any no camera rules at Target or Walmart and I have not seen any signs posted inside either store that says cameras are not allowed. People record inside stores all the time. There are videos all over YouTub of people who review products for their channels. Most noticeably are the guys who want to show how Disney Star Wars merchandise is not selling. They film entire shelves of said toys, even showing the price tags. If cameras were not allowed these guys would be stopped by security.

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-record-vid...mart-Store

It might vary from store to store, and it might be selectively enforced, but many places do have rules like this. I know for sure that Walmart started cracking down on it when People from Walmart first got popular.

Quote:In fact, there is no law against taking video/pictures in a place of business other than in areas where privacy is obviously an issue (e.g. in restrooms, fitting rooms, etc).

The presence or absence of laws doesn't make a shit. Was Rick breaking any laws? If not, why did he get busted? Was the security guy in the wrong?

Also, try taking photos without consent at a US airport or a government building.

Quote:Third...Improper photography is recognized in only one state which makes it not an issue for me because there is no such law in my state so far.

I'll concede that, but my point is that some places do have laws like that, and in other places laws are open to interpretation by asshole cops and asshole judges.

(March 13, 2020, 3:54 am)doubleintegral

(March 13, 2020, 1:20 am)LTKNT101 First...Hunters that lack experience and propper capture techniques are the ones who end up getting busted. You don't follow your targets around the environment. You don't record using a smartphone. You blend in and avoid drawing attention to yourself by using a spy gadget that is not identified as a recording device. If no one knows you are recording there will not be any problems. The scenario you are talking about does not apply to me. I've been a candid hunter for years and have never got busted ever! I don't just candid hunt pregnant women I go for women that are not pregnant as well. If they have big breasts or a big butt I want images of them. My technique is flawless. You could be standing next to me and not even know I was capturing footage. That's how good I am. If you can't hunt without giving yourself away then yes, by all means, get out of the candid hunter game.

All it takes is one fuck-up - an inadvertent camera flash, not tilting your phone screen enough (or tilting it too much), hanging around one girl a few seconds too long - to find yourself in a world of shit.  It can happen to anyone.  Your risk is not zero.

Quote:Second...The property a place like Target sits on is indeed private property however the building is open to the general public during a set amount of hours during which time it is considered a public place. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place. I didn't make that up.

Just because the Target building is open to the public does not make it public property.  Target owns the building, they get to set the rules (as allowed within the law).

Quote:I have not heard of any no camera rules at Target or Walmart and I have not seen any signs posted inside either store that says cameras are not allowed. People record inside stores all the time. There are videos all over YouTub of people who review products for their channels. Most noticeably are the guys who want to show how Disney Star Wars merchandise is not selling. They film entire shelves of said toys, even showing the price tags. If cameras were not allowed these guys would be stopped by security.

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-record-vid...mart-Store

It might vary from store to store, and it might be selectively enforced, but many places do have rules like this.  I know for sure that Walmart started cracking down on it when People from Walmart first got popular.

Quote:In fact, there is no law against taking video/pictures in a place of business other than in areas where privacy is obviously an issue (e.g. in restrooms, fitting rooms, etc).

The presence or absence of laws doesn't make a shit.  Was Rick breaking any laws?  If not, why did he get busted?  Was the security guy in the wrong?

Also, try taking photos without consent at a US airport or a government building.

Quote:Third...Improper photography is recognized in only one state which makes it not an issue for me because there is no such law in my state so far.

I'll concede that, but my point is that some places do have laws like that, and in other places laws are open to interpretation by asshole cops and asshole judges.

  Rick got busted because he gave loss prevention officers reason to be suspicious of him. His behavior raised the red flag which allowed security to have probable cause to investigate what he was doing lingering around the store on multiple occasions without buying anything and clearly was only interested in approaching women. This goes back to the point I made about candid hunters with no experience getting themselves in trouble by making critical errors.

Anyone that goes into a government or federal building to candid hunt using a smartphone is asking for trouble. Your movements will be intensively tracked and the moment you appear to be up to something the law will be on you faster than you can say pregnant. Smart hunting habits are key to going in the field and getting out with what you came for without incident. It doesn't matter if Walmart doesn't like people filming in their stores. If they don't know you are filming they won't have reason to bother you. Good candid hunters can enter places where cameras are not allowed and still score footage. The key is stealth. You have to think of yourself as an undercover super-spy in hostile territory.

Here’s some of my older candids.

Yeah see just going for these kind of bellies (small bellies) is what's going to give you - and possibly all of us away. You have to resist the urge to capture just any pregnant belly just to post it here. Because what'll happen is you'll find yourself so desperate to record every one you see and like they're talking about the cameras and shit, they're gonna take notice to you only following pregnant women.

Man if her belly doesn't look like it's about to hit the floor or if shirt is barely fitting or like she was due YESTERDAY, you need to chill. Those ain't even all that serious, they look like they're barely pregnant yet!

(March 11, 2020, 5:41 pm)Any chance you could fill us in on this Spy Cam? Manufacturers? Product name? Availability/ rough idea of the price?LTKNT101 Before I begin let me start by saying Target and all stores like it are considered public places because the general public is allowed in. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place so taking candid pictures of people is not illegal. Rick_Jeffery23 made a serious error. He kept going back to the same location and spending too much time there and formed a pattern that was red-flagged. You are being watched by loss prevention officers the moment you enter a store. Walking around approaching women, hanging around and leaving without making a purchase is suspicious activity. Once they noticed him doing the same thing multiple times they tracked his movements every time he entered the store. They allowed him to continue to move around for days before they decided to finally approach him. His face is on security camera footage and there is a good chance he has been identified as a possible stalker. Employees have likely been told to notify security if he is seen entering the store again.

By approaching women and asking for belly rubs he violated the primary rule of candid preggo hunting which is to remain discreet. I know we all want to get our hands on a heavily pregnant woman's protruding belly because it's the ultimate prize however a preggo candid hunter should not expose himself in this manner. Doing so allows the woman to get a good look at your face and if any problems should arise she will have no problem giving your description to the authorities. The goal is to capture a video of the woman without making physical contact with her. Using a smartphone is not the best method for capturing candid prey. The chances of getting caught are too high and you make it too obvious that you are recording. When I go hunting I don't use my phone. I use spy cam devices that enable me to blend in and capture candid prey without anyone including the watchful eye of security cameras knowing I'm recording. Anyone that hunts with a smartphone is asking to eventually get caught. If a smartphone is your weapon of choice and you have never been caught good for you and I hope you continue to have success in the field. I would not use one and don't recommend it.

As others have already said Rick_Jeffery23 is lucky to have gotten out of being exposed without suffering any major embarrassment or having his phone taken for evidence. Belly rubs should not be a part of a candid pic hunt. Instead, they should be obtained in a place away from security cameras. Also trying to touch every pregnant belly you encounter is raising the stakes. The more you do it the higher the risk of getting in trouble becomes. If you get one successful belly rub great but don't become so obsessed that you get careless and make mistakes. Don't get me wrong I would love to touch them just as much as the next man but getting a quick belly feel is not worth getting in serious trouble. Be smart men and as always, happy hunting.