I don't know much about birth but I noticed that most cam models seem to get c section. I dont know how common this is with rest of the poplulation but from my little understanding isn't c section supposed to be like last resort?

My guess is that some women don't want to have any damage to their vagina. Vaginal birth could cause some major damage downstairs; not to mention it's extremely painful.

It's a few reasons by my understanding:

1. Prior health reasons such as diabetes and hypertension.

2. Placement of the baby in the womb (ie if it's upside down or if it gets tangled in the umbilical cord) or any health risk that the baby might have such as low oxygen or heart rate.

3. If the woman has a small pelvis, but the baby is too huge to pass through without causing significant damage. This also applies if she's carrying twins or triplets.

4. Or if it's an straight emergency, then she'll go straight for a C-section.

Not to mention that if the women has had a C section from an earlier pregnancy, then she's more likely to have another one if she gets pregnant again.

Because of these, the rate of C sections have gone up to 32.7% in a 2013 study, which is unusually high compared to a couple of decades ago.

(November 30, 2017, 8:28 pm)1Way It's a few reasons by my understanding:

1. Prior health reasons such as diabetes and hypertension.

2. Placement of the baby in the womb (ie if it's upside down or if it gets tangled in the umbilical cord) or any health risk that the baby might have such as low oxygen or heart rate.

3. If the woman has a small pelvis, but the baby is too huge to pass through without causing significant damage. This also applies if she's carrying twins or triplets.

4. Or if it's an straight emergency, then she'll go straight for a C-section.

Not to mention that if the women has had a C section from an earlier pregnancy, then she's more likely to have another one if she gets pregnant again.

Because of these, the rate of C sections have gone up to 32.7% in a 2013 study, which is unusually high compared to a couple of decades ago.

Damn, I am very lucky to be a man. its painful either way but I wonder what is causing this increase and which option is better if there are no dangers to mother or the baby.

I remember a family friend who had it done about year ago and her stuff opened up when she did some chores. just the thought of that alone is scary as fuck

Vaginal will almost always be the better option since the worst case is you'll have end up having to my knowledge is 4th degree vaginal tear, as opposed to a C section which is basically major surgery and run the risk of blood clots, blood loss, damage to inner organs, and a longer hospital stay.

Despite this, there are some women who prefer C section as appose to vaginal due to the fact that they can schedule when they wanna give birth, instead of having to wait. Other cases such what was said above is simply due to babies are being born bigger now than they were in the past and some women may not be able to squeeze them out the natural way.

Much of what has been said is correct, although I'll nitpick a little bit. The part about big babies and small pelvises is not entirely true because the pelvis expands as the baby passes through the birth canal. We were concerned about this with my wife's first pregnancy since she is very short (under 5ft), and her OB said that she once had a 4'7" patient deliver a 10lb baby vaginally with no trouble whatsoever. Every woman and every pregnancy is different.

Now, babies can get stuck in the birth canal during labor, and when that happens then the woman is usually whisked away to surgery if the baby is showing signs of distress. But it's not like an OB will size up a woman in the latter stages of her pregnancy and say "you're too small for vaginal birth". Unless there's another medical condition in play or the woman just doesn't want to, the OB will usually let the woman try vaginal delivery first. If things don't work out then the C-section is still on the table.

As for the women who choose C-section over vaginal, they're just choosing a different set of difficulties and risks: more expensive, longer hospital stay, higher risk of infection, six weeks of no driving or lifting >10lbs, permanent scarring, better-than-even chance of requiring C-sections for each future pregnancy. Some women don't like the prospect of labor and/or vaginal birth, or the uncertainty of when the baby will be born, or the recovery from vaginal delivery (can take a good 3-4 months before sex isn't painful).

(November 30, 2017, 9:16 pm)SweetMilk I remember a family friend who had it done about year ago and her stuff opened up when she did some chores. just the thought of that alone is scary as fuck

How long after deliver was this? The incidence of that happening outside of the typical 6-week recovery time is extremely rare. Sounds like she was doing something she wasn't supposed to be doing and is lucky to be alive.

(November 30, 2017, 11:05 pm)doubleintegral

(November 30, 2017, 9:16 pm)SweetMilk I remember a family friend who had it done about year ago and her stuff opened up when she did some chores. just the thought of that alone is scary as fuck

How long after deliver was this? The incidence of that happening outside of the typical 6-week recovery time is extremely rare. Sounds like she was doing something she wasn't supposed to be doing and is lucky to be alive.

i dont know the full story but it was within the first few weeks from what i remember so i'm assuming she must've picked up something heavy.

(November 30, 2017, 10:58 pm)doubleintegral Much of what has been said is correct, although I'll nitpick a little bit. The part about big babies and small pelvises is not entirely true because the pelvis expands as the baby passes through the birth canal. We were concerned about this with my wife's first pregnancy since she is very short (under 5ft), and her OB said that she once had a 4'7" patient deliver a 10lb baby vaginally with no trouble whatsoever. Every woman and every pregnancy is different.

Now, babies can get stuck in the birth canal during labor, and when that happens then the woman is usually whisked away to surgery if the baby is showing signs of distress. But it's not like an OB will size up a woman in the latter stages of her pregnancy and say "you're too small for vaginal birth". Unless there's another medical condition in play or the woman just doesn't want to, the OB will usually let the woman try vaginal delivery first. If things don't work out then the C-section is still on the table.

As for the women who choose C-section over vaginal, they're just choosing a different set of difficulties and risks: more expensive, longer hospital stay, higher risk of infection, six weeks of no driving or lifting >10lbs, permanent scarring, better-than-even chance of requiring C-sections for each future pregnancy. Some women don't like the prospect of labor and/or vaginal birth, or the uncertainty of when the baby will be born, or the recovery from vaginal delivery (can take a good 3-4 months before sex isn't painful).

Great answer.
The thing you said about increased chances of C-section in the future pregnancy. Is that due to something they do, which can cause complications or something entirely different?

and of course each time circumstances can/will change so you have do things accordingly.

One thing I've noticed with the women from South America is they have a very sharp timeline for how quickly they'll go for a c-section. Three from Colombia told me if they're just a few days past due they are given a c-section.
There's also a number of them that don't make enough to eat well or know about the exercises that help with birth.
Limited sample and preference specific, but those could tie into it. My favorite model nearly starved herself and and cammed most of the day, and ended up getting a c section.