These are delightful @366fdquw83091, are you using Adobe exclusively now? I'm learning some of this stuff and have a full subscription to Adobe's suite.

Edit: Just saw your message about abandoning the thread. Would be a shame, hope to see more of your stuff. I'm going to dive into this myself.

(January 15, 2024, 5:42 pm)pregphil These are delightful @366fdquw83091, are you using Adobe exclusively now? I'm learning some of this stuff and have a full subscription to Adobe's suite.

Hi there Pregphil, I'll answer by saying...unfortunately yes. Mainly because my Midjourney sub expired earlier today, and I won't be able to renew it for the foreseeable future.

Bit of an explanation on things and brief comparison between Firefly and Midjourney for those interested:

The thing is, a few months ago, when I first posted, Firefly V2 (The current version) was the best we've seen so far in ai art generation. While Firefly lagged behind Midjourney in many respects, it was, for the time, exceptional when it came to realistic depictions, especially people (As long as you didn't try to use V2 to generate modern glass buildings). Then late December Midjourney released V6 which was a massive leap forward in realism for Midjourney, especially when using specific prompts. 

Comparing the images, they both look fine when opening them here on the forum, but zooming in or opening the image up on desktop, you'll find some sort of fractal / artifact things like crumpled paper on some Firefly generations that still hasn't been sorted. Selecting the grain filter hides that at least. Note: This effect isn't present when starting your prompt with "Extreme closeup" "What part of the body / face" you want as a closeup for.

So, long story short, in my opinion at the moment Midjourney (Overall) surpasses Firefly in all aspects, with V6 being much better at depicting realistic people than Firefly. Along with the latest update to the Firefly V2 model making it sometimes completely misinterpret even simple prompts and apparently being unable to generate certain types of things / objects / creatures on a white background anymore...I think Adobe has a lot of work to do. 

Only reason I will continue using Firefly at the moment is because I use other Adobe tools and Firefly comes with it as an add-on. I do however have much more experience with Firefly, How the prompting works / Dealing with censorship. i don't have much experience with Midjourney + people, so I'll see to that in the future.

(January 13, 2024, 4:06 pm)366fdquw83091 Some old ones from Firefly, @Daraen9746 Happy now? 

At least imo, it would seem that Midjourney V6 has surpassed FF V2 as far as generating humans go

Note: Some images are deliberately made to appear to be lower quality in an attempt to re-create older online images. 

Yo, incredible stuff

After many tries on Firefly, it seems that prompts like "wearing only sleeveless crop tops, crop tops, chubby, big belly, round belly, belly not fitting in the clothes, belly too big to fit in clothes, tight clothes too small to cover the belly, visible belly" and with excluded prompts like "hidden belly, clothes covering the belly, belly covered by clothes, CAKE" allows to get naked bellies sometimes. It don't work every times unfortunately but I got a few good ones.

Here three examples

Also Firefly keeps trying to generate clothes with stripes or other weird patterns despite I put all that in excluded prompts, and it often do them badly too.

It also sometimes generate pics without any girl and only weird landscapes. Other times, whatever how I ask it to do "simple indoor background, black background" etc, it keeps generating sometimes nature background or indoors with badly generated furnitures instead.

(January 29, 2024, 2:19 pm)Daraen9746 Also Firefly keeps trying to generate clothes with stripes or other weird patterns despite I put all that in excluded prompts, and it often do them badly too.

It also sometimes generate pics without any girl and only weird landscapes. Other times, whatever how I ask it to do "simple indoor background, black background" etc, it keeps generating sometimes nature background or indoors with badly generated furnitures instead.

Daraen, try Bralette. As for the weird backgrounds, for some odd reason since an update early January, it's been unable to do plain black / white backgrounds making it essentially useless for a wide range of things, but it is still possible to get well generated simple indoor spaces. You will need to play around with the "Visual Intensity" slider and specify the indoor space such as bedroom etc. The terrible quality random backgrounds tend to come when the ai does not have enough info on what to do with the background.

P.s. As said before, don't ask me what fascination FF has with cake lately

Oh yeah, you're right, bralettes works well ^^

Yeah I understand, I will try various things for the backgrounds then.

Also, it's funny but FF don't like just fake pregnant bellies xD