(March 26, 2023, 3:37 am)Emojilit @pregphil I also am in the process of trying to trade with him but he hasn’t done anything after I had sent the money. I also have proof that we were discussing teaching and him admitting he received the money. I won’t say I want him banned but I do wanna give him one last chance. Either I would like my refund from him or I would like to have my videos by the 30th. I’ve been waiting for him to sent the vids since March 15th I believe

Any member asking for money in exchange for content is a major red flag. Like @Glittering_You330 said, you were better off buying the clip straight from the source, unless it was something exclusive or unobtainable by conventional means.

I highly doubt @greenbugsbunnyy will ever respond back, and if he does reply back, he'll purposely be obtuse and oblivious about the trade but we all know full well that nobody gets around being *that* incompetent or slow so suddenly. If ignoring your PMs wasn't enough, he'll pretend and gaslighting as a way of backing out a trade should you call him out.

Long time members means nothing to me anymore, in fact it makes less excusable that someone like Jarland2x can easily do this and get away with a slap on the wrist.

(March 26, 2023, 11:29 am)InflatoPreggo It’s almost like this guy has gradually revealed himself to be a fairly incompetent scammer after years of being on the site. Such a fall from grace.

Reputation doesn't matter here when the vast majority of users are easily swayed. You can be the biggest jerk on here, but as soon as you drop a MEGA link people will end up kissing your ass, asking if you have more, and call you a king/legend.

@greenbugsbunnyy all I wanna say it it’s been at least 2 and a half weeks. If you don’t fine a way to send me my vids by the 30th I will report you and I don’t wanna do that. I wish I’ve seen this thread before I traded with you. There’s no point in scamming me if you’ve shown me a clip through email so I know you have the vids. I understand people get busy in life but there’s no reason it should take this long. @pregphil like I said I won’t report him As long as he hold this end of the deal. He also was online 2 hrs ago before I made this comment so I know he saw my dms

Guys, I'm really not sure what to recommend at this point. His PM privileges have been revoked until he replies here and tries to fix things. We can't mediate trade disputes beyond doing what we've already done (which is an exception). I strongly, strongly advise against sending anyone money as part of a trade/arrangement. I'm sorry @Emojilit but we have no way of verifying any of this or solving it. We don't enforce trades.

Moving forward, we will be adding a reputation system (with negative and positive ratings) to user profiles. This should help. Each profile will have a section with scores and member comments. Until then, if a trade sours and the other party definitely appears to be acting in bad faith, make a thread here and include their username in the title. For anyone considering a trade, do a quick "thread title" search in this section.

(March 28, 2023, 6:47 pm)pregphil Guys, I'm really not sure what to recommend. His PM privileges have been revoked until he replies here and tries to fix things. We can't mediate trade disputes beyond doing what we've already done (which is an exception). I strongly, strongly advise against sending anyone money as part of a trade/arrangement.

I suggest making trading unsanctioned going forward. It's already not regulated, so users need to be wise and "trade at their own risk". It's either that or ban it altogether.

(March 28, 2023, 6:51 pm)Glittering_You330

(March 28, 2023, 6:47 pm)pregphil Guys, I'm really not sure what to recommend. His PM privileges have been revoked until he replies here and tries to fix things. We can't mediate trade disputes beyond doing what we've already done (which is an exception). I strongly, strongly advise against sending anyone money as part of a trade/arrangement.

I suggest making trading unsanctioned going forward. It's already not regulated, so users need to be wise and "trade at their own risk". It's either that or ban it altogether.

I think the reputation/rating system will help quite a bit. And yes, to be clear, we have a policy of not getting involved in trade disputes. This was an exception and probably a mistake.

All trades should be entered into with exactly this in mind (trade at your own risk).

I'm just a spectator in all of this, but:

(March 28, 2023, 6:51 pm)Glittering_You330 It's either that or ban it altogether.

I would like someone to explain the virtue of the trade culture on this site.  If you've got something people want, either share it on the forum or don't.  Flaunting that you have something and then demanding a trade for something in return is weak sauce, as if your porn has some ROI attached to it that you're trying to achieve.  Maybe I'm just old-fashioned.

(March 29, 2023, 10:05 pm)doubleintegral I'm just a spectator in all of this, but:

(March 28, 2023, 6:51 pm)Glittering_You330 It's either that or ban it altogether.

I would like someone to explain the virtue of the trade culture on this site. 

Basically they're driven by greed and treating porn like trading cards. In hindsight, you most likely have the money to buy the video that you want if you'll willing to set up a trade in the first place.

What's done is done and the thread served its purpose. I'd like to close this thread from further replies. @Admin @pregphil